Introductory Address by Shashikant oak Date 5 Jun 2010

Introductory Address by Shashikant oak

Date 5 Jun 2010

Time 1030-1100

Welcome , Swagatham,

स्वागतम्,

I , Shashikant oak ,On behalf of all Naadi astrologers accompanying me, Shr. Siva Shanmugam, Chief Naadi astrologer, his able associate Shri. Palanysamy, their English translator Shri Ravi , welcome you all for the feast of Indian astrological marvel.

The present conference is unique in many ways. The fact that Great sages whom we Indians, proudly call as “Maharishis” were never felicitated before anywhere in European Union.

This opportunity has occurred here in Prague , The golden City of Heart of European continent, Czech Rep.

We are proud to announce that this conference was due to the untiring efforts of Shri. Pavel Krejci, Mr. , Katerina Sladka and his fellow members Dr. Joseph Schrotter and Ms. Marie Prihodova Kaplova and many others whom we have not met yet. Without their untiring efforts this conference would not have happened.

Prague had proudly privilege of arranging historical summit of two superpowers of the modern world. USA and Russia, on 6- 8thMarch 2010.

If not politically but spiritually equally important conference is being held in this big Hall of Novomestska Town Hall.

What is the significance and purpose of Prague conference?

1. To express Gratitude towards the Sages like Maharishi Agasthya, Bhrugu, Kaka Bhujander ad Kaushik, Shuka, Bhrhama , and many more who have greatly contributed to the cause of Writing of Naadi palm leaf.

2. To recognize the services provided by the Naadi readers.

3. To bring together the Naadi lovers from Czech Rep for exchange of their experiences.

4. To provide the general information about Naadi Predictions system

5. To guide Czech Rep persons who are lucky to get their palm leaf predictions.

6. To conduct tours for interested persons who wish to visit India for more deep and purposeful palm leaf guidance.

7. To help Czech Rep Naadi lovers to conduct their Pilgrimage of temples in India.

8. To conduct Deeksha Puja on behalf of persons not able to visit Navagraha Temples in India.

9. To make

This conference of Naadi lovers will provide opportunity to many who wish to know more about their personal doubts and get free advice on many aspects of Naadi palm leaves.

We are going to be for very long time here in Prague. Many Naadi lovers will like to meet us in person to know more deep about Hindu or Indian Philosophy and other related topics. We will be glad to associate with them.

We would also like to take opportunity to visit monuments in Golden City of Prague and other cities of this great Country Czech Rep. to know the rich cultural heritage of your religious customs and philosophy.

It will be our pleasure to interact with experts on Indological studies of your great country Czech Rep as much as possible. Museums and archeological departments will give an insight to know more about history of your country and proud citizens of Czech Rep.

Now let me come to the main topic of this session .

INDIAN VIEW OF FATE

Introduction

Every person is curious to know what is going to happen to him? Will he or she get what they have desired?

We rush to the soothsayers when in need.

Some go to astrologers. Some go to palmists. Some prefer to go to Tarot card holders. Some like to visit secretly to the mystic magicians. Some refer specific page or chapter of verse from holy books like Bible, Quran, Bhagvat Geeta or Zen Avesta depending their religious faith. Some go the Gurus.

We Indians are no exception. We have rich and ancient most tradition of Predictions based on planetary positions.

Traditionally, it is said that Arabs from Mediterranean countries were the originators of this knowledge of predictive method.

Leaving aside the many interpretations, we can say that Indian Astrology has been in practice for more than 5000 years old.

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SHASHIKANT OAK

Re: Easwaran's responce- Why is Mr Oak silent ?

Dear Friends,
I have been watching the responses. I have no points to offer on the following matters -
1. No 'explanation for mushrooming Naadi centres each claiming to be authentic ...
2. Why many leafs (leaves you mean) exist for the same person etc ....
3. Mr Eshwaran , Which Maharishi gives you instructions ? On first two points what explanation you expect from anybody? If they (New Naadi centres and many leaves for same person) are there, they are.

Eashwasran may give this answer. However as far as I know , Atri Maharishi had instructed him to entertain questions on line. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.--- On Wed, 28/5/08, aries wrote:
From: aries Subject: [naadiastrology] Easwaran's responce- Why is Mr Oak silent ?To: naadiastrology Date: Wednesday, 28 May, 2008, 11:47 PM



I have seen Mr Oak active during the past , but when people started questioning the whole system why are they silent ? , they just promoted their website and went off again ..
I have never seen
Question to Mr Eshwaran , Which Maharishi gives you instructions ?
-Aries

Eshawaran replies to Question raised ! Why Mr. Oak and Eashwaran is silent?

astroeshwaran wrote: Dear Members of Naadi Astrology Yahoo group, > > It seems that there are some remarks regarding the naadiguruonweb-> site and predictions from Atri Jeeva Naadi by the members of your > group. TILL NOW, I AM NOT MEMBER OF YOUR GROUP. > > Since my name has been taken in
this forum, I want to say something > about the method and the veracity of Atri Jeeva Naadi predictions > via phone or by Internet.> > Atri Jeeva Naadi has got to be referred in person. However, while > the website by Uday Mehtaji and Oakji was underway, it was clarified > by the Maharshi himself by way of answer to a question that he and > his consort Mata Anusuya had given the permission to get the answer > even without being present.> Maharshis had even cautioned that there will be some > misunderstandings due to this procedure. People will not have faith > that the replies are given from our palm leaves or they will suspect > that they are being constructed by the persons who are in possession > of it. > However for the benefit of many who cannot attend in person they had > blessed us to go ahead. Therefore we have started for the
> online /phone predictions just recently.> The procedure adopted for the same is like this.> > 1. Let me make it very clear that I am not the Jeeva Naadi > Reader. I sit next to interpret in Hindi or Marathi. Like I do when > the questioner is present in person, I understand the question and > explain to the Naadi reader for his easy comprehension. Later after > turning some leaves he starts to read the matter which I, in turn > explain to the client. WHEN THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED BY DISTANT > CALLERS, THEY ARE NOTED AND READ OUT BY MY STAFF ONLY WHEN JEEVA > NAADI READER IS FREE BEFORE SUNSET AND THERE IS NO STOPPAGE BY > MAHARISHI AS PER HIS INSTRUCTIONS TO READ. (THIS IS MANDATORY > REQUIREMENT) THUS IN HIS SPARE TIME, HE READS FROM THE LEAF THE > ANSWERS TO THE LISTED QUESTIONS. THE SAME IS NOTED AND WRITTEN DOWN > TO COMMUNICATE TO THE CALLER
LATER ON AS PER HIS CALLING. > 2. Naadi reader reads Atri Jeeva Naadi. He has job of reading > other normal Naadies for the clients waiting as per their > appointments. > 3. When some one contacts from far off place, we actually > inform them not to consult if they have no faith on our sincerely. > 4. Because on many occasions, even when questioners are > physically present, they feel there is something fishy. Very fact > that their answers are being given from the limited leaves kept in > only three packets, itself is very difficult to believe. Further to > believe that every time answers on the leaf change, is almost > impossible. In the beginning, I was also really not believing the > same! Then what to talk of normal public? BUT WITH EXPERIENCE I CAN > SAY THAT IT IS 100% TRUE THAT THE ANSWERS CHANGE EVERY TIME. > 5. It is my observation that every
questioner has expectations > about possible answers but if the answers do not go to the liking of > the questioner, they feel otherwise, and start doubting about the > correctness. Many start asking to suggest remedial measures, however > costly may be, to get a favorable solution to their problems. We > politely refuse to oblige, because what Maharishi says is more > important and correct. MANY TIMES THE QUALITY OF ANSWERS INDICATES > THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE ANSWERS FROM HUMAN INTELLECTUAL > LEVEL OR COMMONSENSE. > 6. Some times answers given are vague or not fully satisfying. > If present in person, one can ask for further clarifications. Many > many times the questions not at all proposed to be asked take very > high priority over planned ones. In some instances, the questioner > gets satisfied with first answer, therefore his subsequent
questions > become redundant and then he starts asking whatever comes to his > mind at that moment. Even then answers to those questions are so > reveling that later on the person feels his last mints questions > were more important than prepared ones. > 7. Many are visiting to my center regularly for getting advice > on varied reasons. I have requested to them to come out with their > experiences on websites. They are generally reluctant. They feel > they are not for convincing anyone. It is matter of experiencing and > believing. Persons like Uday Mahta or Oak are very few who like to > share their views openly. But the negative expressions get more and > faster publicity. > 8. I hope I have made clear my view point. I have nothing to > say further. I wish to conclude this topic from my side with > following message which flashes in response to
query on internet. > "We will also abide by the terms mentioned in the site for honest > and clean business. It will be our solemn promise to all those > seekers whosoever utilize the services by Internet through website > or otherwise that we dedicate the Naadi palm leaf divining as a holy > service for the society. We will try our best to pass on the exact > recordings on the palm leaf without adding or deleting our own words > or expressions.> - Salutations to the great Maharishis.> > > > , > > G Eashwaran.>

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हा धागा टाकून मी वाट पहात होतो तेच नेमके झाले.
तेथे प्रतिसाद फार खाली गेले होते म्हणून नवा टाकत आहे.
ज्योतिष किंवा भविष्य अशा शब्दांचा नुसता संदर्भ आला की ओपन माईंडवाल्यांना अनुभव घ्यायला का अवघड जावे हा त्यांनी विचार करण्यासारखा आहे.

चिकित्सा थिअरी मान्य करण्याचे निकष कसे ठरवावे वगैरे याचा विचार करावा लागतो.

नाडी ग्रंथांच्या बाबत निकष कसे ठरवावेत, काय असावेत याची चर्चा जरूर करावी पण आधी अनुभव तर घ्याल. त्यालाच जर कोणी नाकारत असेल तर मग निकष कसे ठरवणार, मिपावर काहींनी नाडीग्रंथांचा आस्वाद घ्यायचे ठरवले असल्याचे म्हटले गेले पण ते अपेक्षेप्रमाणे बोलघेवडे ठरले.
फतेहपुर सीक्री सहल धाग्याने मी ते हळूवारपणे दर्शवले होते.

नाडी ग्रंथाच्या चिकित्सेसाठी मिपावरील आपणासारख्या अनेकांनी विविध टिपण्यातून व माझ्या अन्य घाग्यातून "चिकित्सा थिअरी मान्य करण्याचे निकष " माहित असून त्याकडे जाणीवपुर्वक टाळले जाते हे लक्षात येते.
आपल्या सोईसाठी इथे मी आधी उल्लेख केलेला महत्वाचा निकष पुन्हा नमूद करतो - नाडीग्रंथांच्या ताडपट्टीत व्यक्तीचे नाव कोरुन येते का? येत असेल तर ते कसे? याचा शोध घेणे-
आता यात भविष्य वा ज्योतिष याचा संदर्भ आला कुठे? हा तर निखळ तमिळभाषेचा -लिपीचा शोध आहे.
मी माझ्याबाजूने केलेल्या अभ्यासाचा पुरावा सादर केला. तो मिपावरील काहींनी वाचून सत्य असल्याचा निर्वाळा दिल्याचे आपणास आठवत असेल.
त्याकडे दुर्लक्षकरून मिपाचे लोक आम्ही विचारतो त्या प्रश्नांची उत्तरे ओक देत नाहीत-टाळतात असा कांगावा करतात.
मी आत्ताच नमूद करतो की - जसा पुर्वी मला अंनिसवादी लोकांनी केलेल्या बहाण्याचा अनुभव आला त्याप्रमाणे - काही मिपाकर नाडीग्रंथांचा अनुभव मी म्हणतो म्हणून घेतीलही. पण ते अशासाठी की नंतर म्हणायला की ओकांचा आग्रह होता म्हणून त्यांच्या समाधानासाठी अनुभव घेतला. अन्यथा आम्हाला तो घ्यायची गरज नव्हती. आम्ही आधीच मानतो की नाडी-वाडी सर्व थोतांड आहे.
मात्र कोवूर,बी प्रेमानंद आदी दिग्गजांपासून ते मा श्री रिसबुड, प्रकाश घाटपांडे, दाभोळकर, शाम मानव आदी ज्या सर्वांनी छातीठोकून नाडीग्रंथांना थोतांड ठरवले त्यातल्या एकानेही नाडी पट्टीचा, त्यातील भाषेचा-लिपीचा, व्यक्तीच्या नावांचा पुरावा सादर करून काही म्हणणे मांडले असेल तर ते त्यांनी सादर करावेत. मी माझ्यापरीने ते पुरावे सादर केलेले आहेत. शिवाय त्यातच आपल्याकडून माहिती काढून तीच आपल्याला सांगितली जाते या आरोपाची शहानिशा आपोआप होते. बर त्यांनी नाही केले तर मिपाकरांनी करावेत.त्यांना तर कोणी आडवले नाही ना?

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ह्या

Submitted by टारझन on Wed, 05/12/2010 - 23:25.

ह्या नाडीचा उपयोग कोणाचं बुडलेलं वर काढायला होतो का ?

-(णाडिविष्वासु) बशीकांत कप

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Submitted by लीमाउजेट on Thu, 05/13/2010 - 00:26.

अहो,
खरोखरच अभ्यास केला तर बोम्बाबोम्ब कशी करायला मिळेल?
दुसर्याला 'मुर्ख' ठरवल्याशिवाय स्वत।ला शहाणे ठरवता येत णाही!
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